Bucket Nationals

[Junior]

Bucket Nationals 2011

Yes you asked for it, and here it is, the Bucket nationals are coming! The meeting to end all bucket meetings will take place at Wakefield Park next year. The track has been tentatively booked for the last weekend in September 2011 (24th -25th). A large Interstate contingent is expected because everyone wants to get their hands on Bucket National Title. There is plenty of time to get all Superlite and Motolite eligible bikes out of mothballs and on the track. Lets throw down the gaunlet and see who is the best Bucket Racer in the country?

Check out all the action, pictures, contacts and information on the Bucket Racing Website. Don't be afraid to ask questions.

http://www.ozbucketracing.com

Don't miss out! Beg borrow or steal a bucket and get it there!

Junior

[the phantom]

Don't forget the Commuterlites

[Junior]

Sorry about that.

The Phantom is 100% correct. Lets get the ball rolling on commuterlites and get them out there. As we speak there are a few more Commuterlites under construction. The more we have on the grid the closer the racing. This is the best way to showcase the new Commuterlite's to the interstate clubs.

The PCRA and the BRA are working together to produce close and exciting racing for the members and the addition of Commuterlites to the Bucket classes is one way to do this.

Junior

[Flapper]

To think that close and exciting racing could be the outcome from progressive actions taken by the BRA, and in conjunction with the PCRA ! MY word what will they think of next

[michaelc]

Will the Nationals also include the 1 Hour as the last event of the weekend?

I Had a text from KK suggesting that we had to find $33k to run the meeting

Can there be some clarification regarding this matter please

[the phantom]

I think the proposal is for a 250 and under meeting , including the Bucket Nationals.
You would have to attract 120 entrants @ $275 to make the thing work.
Can it be done?

We if you include P4 and P5 up to 250, and New era/ Pre Moderns, interstate riders, and factor in a few newbies on Commuterlites, then yes.

[Mad Max]

The Bucket Nationals will be a stand alone meeting. The one hour will still run in late November. SEPARATE EVENTS.
At the moment the proposal is to have races for the following categories

1) Superlite
2) Motolite
3) Commuterlite
4) 0 - 250 Post Classic & Forgotten Era
5) 125cc New Era & Pre Modern

There will be following for each category
1) 15 minute practice
2) 15 minute qualifying
3) 5 x 10 lap races

Entry fee will depend on how many entries we will get. There will be a budget announced soon (Watch BRA website)
The BRA/PCRA will need to do plenty of work to make this work. We need to encourage Interstate people top attend & get some idea how many will attend.

If we are to get 25 entries per race category that would give us a sub #300 entry fee. Obviously some people would have more than 2 bikes which will change this calculation, however I hope you get the picture.

We need to be positive about this meeting & work towards establishing a great ANNUAL event.

Watch the BRA for announcements regarding promotion, news & all updates.

I AM REQUESTING TO STOP THE CRITICISM & BE POSITIVE ABOUT THIS MEETING & OUR RACING IN GENERAL. Back in 1997 I suggested a "Bucket One Hour" the first response was "you can't do that"! Look at the one hour now. Undoubtedly one of the great meetings of the year. So there is no such thing as can't, there maybe hard & harder, you just have to be positive, look at anyway to make it work. I am so sick of negativity. That's it for now, WATCH BRA WEBSITE FOR UPDATED.

[Paul 93]

What a great idea.

[Andrew]

The 25 bikes for Motolite and Commuterlite will be hard work to get the numbers, unless you combine the two. Then have a 400 as well class instead of a seperate Motolite and Commuterlite class.
400's races can bring 40 bikes for the one race from all the Eastern states.

The the Qld, NSW, Vic and New Zealand need to work on the Bucket rules to have uniform classes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bucket_racing

[the phantom]

Andrew, I'm confident we can fill all 3 grids with Buckets, it's all jus a case of marketing. We have well over 1 year to stir the pot and get other clubs involved . Most the other clubs have benn using the BRA rules, as they are a benchmark. If Aircooled can rev up his mates in the north, and the other Ron (Mathews) do the same down south it will be easy. Then it's a case of pushing the Commuterlite wagon along and show everyone how easy it is to get on board. Even Snake might come out to play. BTW, good find on the Auction site. Someone please snap them up.

[Mad Max]

You see Andrew there you are being NEGATIVE straight away. The Phantom has the right attitude. We will get good grids Motolite won't be an issue at all. Superlite we may have to work at a little bit & Commuterlite with the right promotion can potentially go ballistic. POSITIVE Please.

[Flapper]

Dear Mad max, you might have to put your blue and red leathers on when you get on the forum, we don't want you to get hurt with all of jibebing thats done at our own expense... I for one appreciate the Bucket nationals concept, and will be working very hard to obtain as much high profile pre event promotion as possible.

joking about our racing and our mates is part of this forum and only rarely negative, and as in your post, a great way to communicate with people interested in primarilly Buckets. It's been speculation and positive comments here that has largly provided the push to establish Commuterlites and the interest in them. Commuterlites will see my return to the bucket grids, we might even get Andrew in on one by the time the nationals come around, but only if he's not negative. And having a set of dates and classes put up as early as this is unheard off, in reality and there are now no excuses why the grids should not be full.

A big kiss from me for all your hard work

[Andrew]

( sorry for the spanish) ( but i dont need to get banded again so soon)
Estimado Mad Max, su cabeza un pito, por favor no dude en obtener más de su auto. Creo que los nacionales de cazo es una gran idea. voy a tratar de tener un Superlite H110 y un cubo de cuatro tiempos para este evento. incluso tengo debajo de mi casa un P5 125 en bits y obtener una P5 en bits y en pocos días un P4 124. pero también tengo una 400. el plan de 400 sólo podría ser una gran idea si usted no recibe las entradas de tu querer finace el evento.

So i hope i will be there in the form of H110 superlite ( thats in the work van now) and a four stroke motolite thats comming together for next year. it sounds like it will be fun.!! just need to lose some more weight..

Would there also be the chance to have a state or origin amongst the point score? in every class?
And motolite non gp? as a class so it could look like superlites on the ponts score have Motolite Amature ( would be non gp class) and Motolite Pro have gp chassis and body work.

[Greeny]

Brilliant idea!!!!

Would be happy to come all the way from Tasmania to run a couple of buckets and possibly even a motolite (would need to build one as they dont run them here). I Agree with those saying not to be negative, its far too early for that. There are already a few of us who travel to victoria 5 times a year to run 125's and buckets. Your would be well advised to contact the hartwell motorcycle club as they have a large continent of buckets at each meeting.

Only problem is that victorian bucket/superlight rules vary slightly. They allow for full fairings and unlimited carb size on strokers.

[michaelc]

The cost risk would be eliminated totally by running NE & PM F1, 2 & 3 as a PCRA points scoring round along with S & M Nationals

This programme would pick up 70% of the usual PCRA entries

Another alternative would be to run the P's & FE's on one day and the PM & NE on another day, effectively offering those classes a 1 day race meeting each

It would make sense to have a BRA summit, publicised well in advance to discuss the race meeting, determine the format, run the $$$ numbers, allocate responsibilities and timelines

My office is available

Edict based announcements are unfair as clubs should allow input from all members - as the club belongs to the members not to individuals

[Martin]

We need to give the event a name. How about the KKFoF (King Kenny Festival of Fun ?

[Jeda]

What's the story Martin .... only 2x K's

[the phantom]

I don't think the meeting would lose any credibilty by inclusion of the following.

Expand the 125 PM and NE to include all F3 as per normal PCRA meetings. This should guaranty a full gid of 40. This can take pressure off getting big grid numbers in other classes.

Being a 2 day meeting, there would be space in the lineup for a 6th race. A class that will get some media coverage would be the juniors, who are racing bikes that Bucketeers relate to. This can help in the promotion of the Commuterlites.

Any thoughts?

[HaggLE]

Expand the 125 PM and NE to include all F3 as per normal PCRA meetings.

Remember that by then NE will be gone and P6 rules will be in place...

[Martin]

And Pre Modern types will be gone by the end of 2010